A.I.D.S. as a weapon. A.I.D.S. is a weapon

RogerChristie

Dear Friends,

Aloha. This is a very controversial topic and I do NOT claim to be "certain" about it. However, I DO think and feel that A.I.D.S. was created in a laboratory as a biological weapon and I find it helpful to see Ms. Maathai bring the discussion to the world table.

In the book BEHOLD A PALE HORSE William Cooper includes a copy of a 'Hearing before a Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations' about financing of projects for the Department of Defense in 1970. On July 1, 1969 this meeting supposedly took place. It says it is H.B. 15090, or House Bill, so this transcript might be verifiable in US Government records.

The book goes on to say that at that meeting under the topic of SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS:

"...within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired."

Remember this was 1969. A.I.D.S. became known in the mid-1970's. Do the math.

The transcript of the meeting that day also says:

"It is a highly controversial issue and there are many who believe such research should not be undertaken lest it lead to yet another method of massive killing of large populations."

When I was being trained as an "intelligence analyst" at Fort Holabird, Maryland in 1970-71 I came across the information that the US Army had in its arsenal, "ethno-specific biological weapons". Ethnic-specific.

A.I.D.S. has been declared a "national security threat" to the USA so that all information about it must go through the C.I.A. They have been declared the 'gate-keepers' of the information. As far as I can tell there has been a very thorough scrubbing of all related information over the last decade to remove any trace of where A.I.D.S. came from. A few hints:

I'm convinced it is "PROJECT: MK-NAOMI" begun by Litton Bionetics and developed in a laboratory in Uganda. Chimpanzies were used as the testors and the 'carriers' of the live virus when it was shipped to Fort Detrick, Maryland, long known as the US Army's biological weapons laboratory.

This is one of the most ugly and horrible episodes of "weapons of mass destruction" I've ever heard of. I hope it is not true, but I suspect that it is. Maybe this courageous African woman can bring light to shine on the darkness and help the healing begin.

Sincerely,

Roger Christie

Kenyan Wangari Maathai has become the first African woman to win the Nobel Peace Prize. (AFP)

Nobel peace laureate claims HIV deliberately created

Kenyan ecologist Wangari Maathai, the first African woman to win the Nobel Peace Prize, today reiterated her claim that the AIDS virus was a deliberately created biological agent.

"Some say that AIDS came from the monkeys, and I doubt that because we have been living with monkeys (since) time immemorial, others say it was a curse from God, but I say it cannot be that.

"Us black people are dying more than any other people in this planet," Ms Maathai told a press conference in Nairobi a day after winning the prize for her work in human rights and reversing deforestation across Africa.

"It's true that there are some people who create agents to wipe out other people. If there were no such people, we could have not have invaded Iraq," she said.

"We invaded Iraq because we believed that Saddam Hussein had made, or was in the process of creating agents of biological warfare," said Ms Maathai.

"In fact it (the HIV virus) is created by a scientist for biological warfare," she added.

"Why has there been so much secrecy about AIDS? When you ask where did the virus come from, it raises a lot of flags. That makes me suspicious," Ms Maathai said.

Africa accounts for 25 million out of the estimated 38 million across the world infected with HIV, and the vast majority of infected Africans are women, according to UNAIDS estimates.

The United States on Friday congratulated Ms Maathai on winning the Nobel Peace Prize, but tempered its praise over her claims about AIDS.

"She said (HIV/AIDS) was invented as a bio-weapon in some laboratory in the West," a senior State Department official said. "We don't agree with that."

The official pointed to a report of those comments published in August in Kenya's daily Standard newspaper, in which Ms Maathai was quoted as saying that HIV/AIDS was created by scientists for the purpose of mass extermination.

--AFP

**Ferre** · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject:

It wouldn't surprise me at all if that comes out to be true.

It's no coincidence that the name of the CIA poppes up every time crimes against humanity are questioned.

A.I.D.S.... CIA involvment
Terrorism... CIA involvment.

they always seem to "coordinate the intelligence". My view is that they "arrange the intelligence".
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Lilli · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:54 pm Post subject:

I certainly believe it. Evil evil evil Evil or Very Mad

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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject:

I agree. When you consider that many of the world influence pedaling in the last few decades was driven by the CIA to further Big Business interests in the US as well as abroad you can easily believe the bad news....
I also believe Ms. Maathai.
Thank you Roger...

Fyrefly1

RogerChristie · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:15 am Post subject: Another factor

Hello there,

Aloha. Another piece of this whole ugly theory is that the A.I.D.S. virus was placed into vaccines for smallpox and hepetitis B and then given to 'targeted populations'. The World Health Organization supposedly distributed the smallpox throughout Africa (see "W.H.O. Killed Africa"), and hep. B shots were distributed for free to gay men's health clinics in Manhattan and San Francisco. Gay men in the USA and blacks in Africa.

It's more than thirty years later and what has happened? Gay men have been killed-off in the USA by tens of thousands with more all the time. Africa has a population implosion in many places with more deaths than births - and still it goes on.

I have zero satisfaction in telling this,

Roger

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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1970

United States Senate Library

HEARINGS before a SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Ninety-First Congress

First Session

Subcommittee on Department of Defense

George H. Mahon, Texas, Chairman

Robert L.F. Sikes, Florida, Glenard P. Lipscomb, California

Jamie D. Whitten, Mississippi William E. Minshall, Ohio

George W. Andrews, Alabama, John J. Rhodes, Arizona

Daniel J. Flood, Pennsylvania Glenn R. Davis, Wisconsin

John M. Slack, West Virginia, Joseph P. Addabbo, New York

Frank E. Evans, Colorado

Temporarily assigned H.B. 15090

PART 5

RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION

Department of the Army

Statement of Director, Advanced Research Project Agency

Statement of Director, Defense Research and Engineering

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Printed for the use of the Committee on Appropriations

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1969

UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY

129

TUESDAY, JULY 1, 1969

SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS

There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists believe that within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired.

MR. SIKES. Are we doing any work in that field?

DR. MACARTHUR. We are not.

MR. SIKES. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest?

DR. MACARTHUR. Certainly not lack of interest.

MR. SIKES. Would you provide for our records information on what would be required, what the advantages of such a program would be. The time and the cost involved?

DR. MACARTHUR. We will be very happy to. The information follows:

The dramatic progress being made in the field of molecular biology led us to investigate the relevance of this field of science to biological warfare. A small group of experts considered this matter and provided the following observations:

1. All biological agents up the the present time are representitives of naturally occurring disease, and are thus known by scientists throughout the world. They are easily available to qualified scientists for research, either for offensive or defensive purposes.

2. Within the next 5 to 10 years, it would probably be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon when we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease.

3. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed in approximately 5 years at a total cost of $10 million.

4. It would be very difficult to establish such a program. Molecular biology is a relatively new science. There are not many highly competent scientisis in the field., almost all are in university laboratories, and they are generally adequately supported from sources other than DOD. However, it was considered possible to initiate an adequate program through the National Academy of sciences - National Research Council (NAS-NRC, and tentative plans were made to initiate the program. However decreasing funds in CB, growing criticism of the CB program., and our reluctance to involve the NAS NRC in such a controversial endeavor have led us to postpone it for the past 2 years.

It is a highly controversial issue and there are many who believe such research should not be undertaked lest it lead to yet another method of massive killing of large populations. On the other hand, without the sure scientific knowledge that such a weapon is possible, and an understanding of the ways it could be done. there is little that can be done to devise defensive measures. Should an enemy develop it there is little doubt that this is an important area of potential military technological inferiority in which there is no adequate research program.

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RogerChristie · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:57 am Post subject: The 'A.I.D.S. Clock'

Aloha. The A.I.D.S. Clock I just found said that there have been over
40,482,092 deaths attributable worldwide to the virus...so far. It's a global menace.

Project MK:NAOMI? Paid for with US tax dollars? I wonder...

Roger

Lilli · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject:

That is very heart wrenching. It shows the enemy has his hands in everything in todays government. Bushes are his puppets and it goes way back further then them. As brother Ferre himself quoted one of the best scriptures for our world today.
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places

Kate · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:16 pm Post subject:

well...people used to tell me i was nuts when i said that this was another form of goverment preforming population control....
maybe its because i was brought up in the military that i am so quick to say that (is this why i am such a rebel? lol); and it really doesn't surprise me one bit.
weapons of mass destruction....who really is hiding them..... Rolling Eyes

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:27 pm Post subject:

This research shows the UGLINESS of humankind...
Control by disease of select populations is so evil that it's hard to even talk about.
I pray that the evil forces are neutralized and the offenders become somehow enlightened...
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RogerChristie

Hello Friends,

Aloha. If I was a prosecutor I would want to investigate, for starters, the people whose names are mentioned in the above government report and see if it's true and if they can be prosecuted NOW for the crime they committed THEN. Their crime is STILL being committed every second of every day. They might be 70 or 80 years old now and wouldn't it be some justice if they heard a knock on their front door?

40,482,092 deaths ... and counting! That's the biggest case of premeditated murder ever recorded in human history and the men who intended it and created it and acted upon it are possibly still among us. If this is true, I wonder what they're working on today? :-{

I think I'll write to my Congressman Ed Case and try and to get an investigation started immediately. This is too huge to ignore.

Love, Roger

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RogerChristie

Aloha.

Dr. Macarthur is mentioned here again as the lead government instigator of these most ugly genocidal, depopulation programs.

* Remember that fresh, fertile hempseeds and organic cannabis flowers would help greatly to treat victims of the A.I.D.S. virus. Today!

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love, Roger

RogerChristie

Hello Friends,

Aloha. If I was a prosecutor I would want to investigate, for starters, the people whose names are mentioned in the above government report and see if it's true and if they can be prosecuted NOW for the crime they committed THEN. Their crime is STILL being committed every second of every day. They might be 70 or 80 years old now and wouldn't it be some justice if they heard a knock on their front door?

40,482,092 deaths ... and counting! That's the biggest case of premeditated murder ever recorded in human history and the men who intended it and created it and acted upon it are possibly still among us. If this is true, I wonder what they're working on today? :-{

I think I'll write to my Congressman Ed Case and try and to get an investigation started immediately. This is too huge to ignore.

Love, Roger

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RogerChristie

Hello there,

Aloha. Here's more on this topic.

http://www.davidicke.net/medicalarchives/aids/aidspentagon.html

All the best to you,

Roger

RogerChristie · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:11 am Post subject: Key suspects

Aloha.

Dr. Macarthur appears in this research, also. Is he THE key suspect? Is he still alive? I wonder.

http://gaytoday.badpuppy.com/garchive/health/063097he.htm

All the best to you,

Roger