A plant is not God.

prntrkmt · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:08 am Post subject:

9??9T?,David"]No-ones entering my body, I train my butt cheeks everyday without fail.
Hold well tight, hold it, hold it, feel the burn and relax. Hold well tight, hold it, hold it, feel the burn and relax.

cheeks of steel. I can crack a walnut between them.

Prntrkmt, what do pacifist do to get around this one, and don't you dare say, "we put up no resistance"! roflol

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There is nothing unethical with non-violent resistance.

Even in the martial arts, there is the idea that the greatest master of martial arts is so aware of his or her surroundings that he or she anticipates and avoids any need to use the martial arts. There is a lot of wisdom in avoiding the need for confrontation.

If one voluntarily (or involuntarily) chooses to resist non-violently, one must be ready and able to be a martyr. I don't wish torture and death on anyone, but better to suffer torture than to become as unethical as the violent criminal.

I realize that some persons believe in self-defense and other variations of just wars.
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David · Bard Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 1261

Prntrkmt,

I am the wrong person to quote Martial arts to, I have studied them for 30yrs

**Brother Adam** · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:09 am Post subject:

I have trained for about 15 years in a number of different martial arts and there is one undeniable key. Defense is offense, and offense is defense. They are different, but both one and the same, they are a part of and apart of each other, and they are inseparable.
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Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face.

Sir Les · Full member Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 53

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The answer is that no man holds the answer. Cool

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JESUS (Jeshua) held the answer to everything....Although the ones who had control had no belief in his truth, The only way to contain his truth was to murder him,and all those who followed him, that were given the truth.... so as to silence that truth from this plain of existance.
That is what My Bible says about that time lines....HISTORY!
So to say No man has /or had..the answer is in error of the History of this planet.

Jesus also said God feeds the birds and Loves them...What did Jesus mean by that?
Could it mean that indeed God is part plant?..or that God needs plants in order to get the seeds needed to fulfill that statement..?
Could it mean that God is Marijuana or needs marijuana?
Of course we should hold all possibilities in hand...as it seems that Plants have some how gained partnerships with other life, to suite their needs and help thier functions, and climatizing of this world...and which is to bare seed and fruits for food for the wild life that stems from What?
the relationships are real...covenants!..Unions!
Now how could a plant communicate these unions onto other life?
And in our Bible's Genesis God says he created or wanted helpers of the garden....again the plant at the center of the Garden is off limites to Humankind...ADAM and EVE.
Why?....because you cannot gain Godliness through consumption of God!
And you cannot kill the truth of God for God is spirit and flesh eternal.
Thus in any estate God exists...because of the helpers on any side of the four dimensional plains!
And God's truth will always exists because the truth cannot die!
In essence once the errors are found out...Truth corrects the errors!
Error cannot correct truth!

Now Jesus is born in the flesh, and because he saw the truth, and fulfilled the word of God, and sowed or put back the seed sinlessly on the mount of Olives.....Eden restored?....God in the spirit found a helper in Jesus, and took him from Death (For sin begets death) and raised him back to life...(Put him back in EDEN) for he was sinless!...But before that assention, Jesus came back here, to give word, and show that by abiding in the word and will of God, and fulfilling his word and will to the letter of the laws, we can do the same things he has done......."Honour God"...and the garden becomes a paradise! = promise of God!

[quote] If there even is an answer to be had. The truth is, we must either bide our time in this life and hold ourselves accountable by our own consciousness, and if we are to be further judged after death, so be it. Cool

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The scriptures do say something about Judgement....for all will be judged, both the living and the dead...So it is in our best interest to do what is good, what is righteous, what is morally correct..for the greator good of the whole creation...what is fruitful, and what is not only good for Humans, but to extend that Goodness over the life God had created..OUR NEIGHBOURS....either living or dead...that includes the plants!
And it also says not to profane what God has made clean...so If Jesus says it is all good when taken with thanksgiving, and God says it is good in the begining...then it is all good...
The problem arises in the abuser!..and the denier of the truth of that part of the Bible,, so they can make profits off the downfall and suffering and sicknesses they create with MONEY>Ingraven Idol.