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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your not just a nutter are you, your a malicious nutter.

Sad, ........................... I pity all who know you.
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Who cares what a liar says? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Who cares what a liar says? Reply with quote

[quote="DdC"]Have some pork rinds and chill dude. Stocker troll boy. Unsubstantiated paranoia over smoking a jpint on 4/20 has gotten you all brain rotted.

V- not me son. I don't smoke anymore.

D- Have some self respect and stop hiding behind those narkoslut hero's

V- What hero's ? Who's hiding ? I'm right here. Hello !

D- Rev. ha ha ha. Big Revolation asswipe. People sell bumper stickers and that gets your nickers all in a bunch? While the cockeating maggots steal the treasury blind, kill innocents over oil and rape the Constitution of its rights.

V- That's more your problem than mine. Thankfully I live in something called the rest of the world that isn't Hipocritic America. Over here most of us know that 'Revoloution'/'Rebellion' takes place primarily in the mind of the individual first, the actions of whom inspire others second, and effect wider society third.

D- You sir are an idiot and a coward.

V- They say it takes one to know one. We have never met. - "end of story."

D- You got nothing except your own references, like a common thief groveling for an excuse. Your word has been proven by several to be false.

V- Has it really ? Who by ?

D - Your chickenlittle wimpers only laughed at by he true sane.

V- ................................ sorry, I'm pissing myself rolling around the floor. Your right out there man arn't you ? I bet you still use words like 'cosmic' and 'groovey'. If sane people rant and rave in the fanatic and fantastical manner you exhibit then I'm glad to be mad.

I just bet Homeland Security have a thickening file on your arse.

Psssst. Hey D, they just rang and told me they're coming for you man. They got one of them snazzy jackets that fasten up at the back for you. Its a designer 'Stifle'. Better click your heels four hundred and twenty times and put your tin foil hat on. Don't turn around.

................... 'sigh', ......... hilarious. I can only wonder what foam drenched raving you'll come out with next ?

Anyone got a dart gun ?
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Still just a punk Reply with quote

Dear Justice Dept,
Debate has always been welcome, trashing posts is illegal.
After numerous warnings (postings sent), the stalking has persisted.
I am enclosing this trolls ISP and moniker of "viper".

Still mouthfarting gossip boy?
Your stalking me has been forwarded.
Your attempts at intimidation have failed, you're just a common punk.


Cyberstalkers meet or target their victims by using search engines, online forums, bulletin and discussion boards, chat rooms, and more recently, through online communities such as MySpace, Facebook, Friendster and Indymedia, a media outlet known for self-publishing. They may engage in live chat harassment or flaming or they may send electronic viruses and unsolicited e-mails. [7] Victims of cyberstalkers may not even know that they are being stalked. Cyberstalkers may research individuals to feed their obsessions and curiosity. Conversely, the acts of cyberstalkers may become more intense, such as repeatedly instant messaging their targets. [8]

More commonly they will post defamatory or derogatory statements about their stalking target on web pages, message boards and in guest books designed to get a reaction or response from their victim,

If you are a Victim of Cyberstalking

U.S. Department of Justice. (August 1999). Cyberstalking: A New Challenge for Law Enforcement and Industry -- A Report from the Attorney General to the Vice President. Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice, pp. 2, 6.

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, DdC, with all respect, I have been reading this tread the past few days and seriously, are you that upset by people who have an opinion about the commercializing and culture-hyping that is soo 'American' to many Europeans? (and with 'American' they don't mean that it is a good thing.)

If you had read the rather lengthy article that viper has written and of which he has provided a link you would have known what exactly his beef with the '420' brand is about, an opinion which is shared by many outside the usa.

Here's the article; http://el-dan.co.uk/tales/420revealed.htm you might want to read it, and maybe you would understand viper's point of view, it might lead to a more mature discussion.
Did you ever realize that this whole 420 thing is stigmatizing and can have just as bad of influence on the legalization process as a good influence?

We here in Holland won our fight because we did NOT set ourselves aside of society but on contrary showed the government by example that cannabis is mainstream, what I see in America by activists is often counter productive, with stigmatizing yourself as a group you are only feeding the critics, and that whole 420 brand is part of the image that mainstream Americans have about pot, the mainstream Americans who you need to support your cause, do you really believe those mainstream people who do not use pot feel a positive association with the 420 brand?

Oh, before I forget, viper is a mod here, he is not stalking you, he just differs from opinion on one subject, in all the years he hardly ever replied to your posts, I think it would be wise to try and see things in perspective.

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well put Ferre.

D I've been rather indulgent with you here. I could have simply locked the thread as soon as you started throwing the insults around.

Now, if you'd like to engage in sensible and reasoned debate fair enough, carry on, otherwise I'm going to say this thread is done with. Any further mud slinging will result in the thread being locked.

Take the hint. Play nice.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Still just a punk Reply with quote

DdC wrote:
Dear Justice Dept,
Debate has always been welcome, trashing posts is illegal.
After numerous warnings (postings sent), the stalking has persisted.
I am enclosing this trolls ISP and moniker of "viper".

Still mouthfarting gossip boy?
Your stalking me has been forwarded.
Your attempts at intimidation have failed, you're just a common punk.


Cyberstalkers meet or target their victims by using search engines, online forums, bulletin and discussion boards, chat rooms, and more recently, through online communities such as MySpace, Facebook, Friendster and Indymedia, a media outlet known for self-publishing. They may engage in live chat harassment or flaming or they may send electronic viruses and unsolicited e-mails. [7] Victims of cyberstalkers may not even know that they are being stalked. Cyberstalkers may research individuals to feed their obsessions and curiosity. Conversely, the acts of cyberstalkers may become more intense, such as repeatedly instant messaging their targets. [8]

More commonly they will post defamatory or derogatory statements about their stalking target on web pages, message boards and in guest books designed to get a reaction or response from their victim,

If you are a Victim of Cyberstalking

U.S. Department of Justice. (August 1999). Cyberstalking: A New Challenge for Law Enforcement and Industry -- A Report from the Attorney General to the Vice President. Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice, pp. 2, 6.



Oh boy...I'm not getting into your argument, but I'm going to point something out. The zio-nazis (I'm using that term to be nice) have just put together a cyber-bullying bill in Congress, and I wouldn't suggest supporting it. See my site: http://www.subvertednation.net/who-should-fear-who/

The game is rigged, and you'll never defeat cannabis prohibition unless you identify who is rigging it and why. You think alcohol prohibition and "the mob" was all run by italians? I've got new for you. Who do you think Bugsy Siegel was? He wasn't italian, he was a member of the tribe.

Does a warning siren make a sound if it falls on deaf ears?
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Still just a punk Reply with quote

DdC wrote:
Dear Justice Dept,
Debate has always been welcome, trashing posts is illegal.
After numerous warnings (postings sent), the stalking has persisted.
I am enclosing this trolls ISP and moniker of "viper".

Still mouthfarting gossip boy?
Your stalking me has been forwarded.
Your attempts at intimidation have failed, you're just a common punk.


Cyberstalkers meet or target their victims by using search engines, online forums, bulletin and discussion boards, chat rooms, and more recently, through online communities such as MySpace, Facebook, Friendster and Indymedia, a media outlet known for self-publishing. They may engage in live chat harassment or flaming or they may send electronic viruses and unsolicited e-mails. [7] Victims of cyberstalkers may not even know that they are being stalked. Cyberstalkers may research individuals to feed their obsessions and curiosity. Conversely, the acts of cyberstalkers may become more intense, such as repeatedly instant messaging their targets. [8]

More commonly they will post defamatory or derogatory statements about their stalking target on web pages, message boards and in guest books designed to get a reaction or response from their victim,

If you are a Victim of Cyberstalking

U.S. Department of Justice. (August 1999). Cyberstalking: A New Challenge for Law Enforcement and Industry -- A Report from the Attorney General to the Vice President. Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice, pp. 2, 6.



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I'm going to point something out. The zio-nazis (I'm using that term to be nice) have just put together a cyber-bullying bill in Congress, and I wouldn't suggest supporting it. See my site: http://www.subvertednation.net/who-should-fear-who/


I agree.

and to also add DdC are you really that childish? I mean seriously I can understand a little kid resorting such antics but from an adult? and what I really don't understand is how the people would let the government wait I don't even need to finish that sentence lmao. Grow up, dont tattle, if you dont like what he has to say IGNORE him.

I mean afterall I didint agree with What Viper had origonally said, I posted my opinion and left it at that. But this has just gotten childish and I am surprised the admins let it go on as far as it has.

my 2cents
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Still just a punk Reply with quote

DamienHaze wrote:
... and I am surprised the admins let it go on as far as it has.


The explanation for why 'the admins' have 'let it' go on as far as it has is simple; This is a European board with a mostly European crew on board. I have often noticed that American based forums have stricter rules and stricter moderation this due the Calvinistic nature of the American society in general, as much as the American people on an individual basis believe they have freedom of speech and expression, as much censor is going on in reality.

The Dutch are not impressed by censor, we do not boop out words on tv, we do not cover nipples on tv either and we do not censor our forums, we also do not interfere when others decide to make an ass of themselves in public, after all, it's their ass and down here people also have the freedom to make a fool of themselves if they choose to.

I hope that answers your question. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:35 am    Post subject: and a big 420 Reply with quote

Seems the trolls stick together in childish blind obedience. OK. Now seems these here Hollanders were either Nazi's or Cowards sitting it out in neutrality as door mats when 6 million people were killed by Hitler. Why isn't that a surprise? Ferrer, now I'd be thinking its still too soon to be spouting off in public after the total embarrassment to the cannabis movement you accomplished. One chance to show the world Cannabists are sober intelligent hard working citizens, and what do you do? Light your hair on fire firing up a bowl. I don't think I'll be taking your self analysis of Americans too seriously.

The Dutch used to be so malicious as slave traders and Imperialism was right up their with the other First World countries. WTF? American weekend hippies turn y'all into politically correct liberals? Even had stakes in the US, New York no less. Lost it. Even the Indians got $24 bucks. So now you loose Christiana and can't grow decent pot so you have to mix tobacco with hash. Such pompous asses, and I'd say not to bright building a city below sea level. But at least you have boring trolls to plug up the dykes, We have boring dykes to plug up the trolls. The only good I've seen come out of the Nueterlands is M.C. Escher. Tulips suck and what wingnut would wear wooden shoes? California has less restrictions in most places and good pot and weather. Sold in vending machines mates. Now trolls, bite me. 420 Boo! Fucking hypocrites don't need a 420 label, ha, what a crock. What's the frickin Cannabis Cup numbnuts? Why a Hash Museum? Trolls can get their info without a building, trolls don need no stinkin bodges or books eh.

Learn how to build efficient windmills! Are the hobgoblin crop thieves the same as the ghost town from outlawing tobacco? Still haven't splained that one lucy. What, they only rip off crops on April 20th? You insult thousands of mostly young people who turned out on 4/20 in solidarity to overturn the cannabis laws and only the Narks and pompus idiots call them and their action of protest a "nonsense thing is a con on the culture of the highest order." Self appointed cannabis puritans, on the very commercial internet typing on a very plastic keyboard making pixles form into very ridiculous hypocritical words and if the ISP's match, the ID of a stalker.

So if you want to avoid these diversions open the delete function on my account. Actually most "free" forums have a close thread option for the poster since this is simply a stop on a list of many forums to bring and gather information, I suggest you provide the option. If anyone has opinions of the content they can respond on their own posts and not attack the poster. Its just information, take it or leave it but attacking me for posting it is a typical diversion from the topic and nothing else. Those with no evidence have little options.

420 is nothing more than a symbol of people gathering in Peace to toke a flower from a plant. Any conspiracy nuts can dream all they want and post their counterpoints elsewhere and give the option for the public at large to choose to engage or just get the info without chickenshit scratches and ugliness bickering. No one even ask if I agreed with 420. I post lots of different info, with related info and references, that isn't on TV normally, nipples showing or not. Doesn't mean I wrote it or even agree with it. In this case as I just stated I happen too agree with it, but trollboy didn't know that when he attacked the messenger. Paranoia will destroy ya. Maybe the Dutchkins "Christian Democrats" could learn about the importance of separating church and state? Grow up dutchies! 420!

Move the Cannabis Cup to Cali!!!



Even US right wing christians at odds with Dutch christian democrats.

Does History Repeat Itself?
FOX NEWS: Cal Thomas Monday, December 06, 2004

Nazi history is repeating it self in Holland.

Something terrible is happening in the land of wooden shoes, windmills, Rembrandt (search) and wonderful breakfasts. A Dutch hospital is euthanizing — killing — newborn babies who don't measure up to an arbitrary standard set by the hospital. Holland is a perfect example of what happens when there is no governing moral standard. The Dutch have decriminalized most drugs and people smoke dope openly in venues set aside for the practice. Prostitutes display their wares like mannequins in department store windows. And now we have at least one hospital murdering already born babies because someone has decreed them unworthy of life.

How The Bush Family Made Its Fortune From The Nazis
The Dutch Connection By Attorney John Loftus

The British and American interrogators may have gravely underestimated Thyssen but they nonetheless knew they were being lied to. Their suspicions focused on one Dutch Bank in particular, the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart, in Rotterdam. This bank did a lot of business with the Thyssens over the years. In 1923, as a favor to him, the Rotterdam bank loaned the money to build the very first Nazi party headquarters in Munich. But somehow the allied investigations kept going nowhere, the intelligence leads all seemed to dry up.

Now there's a decent conspiracy. Fighting the powerful fascist banksters and corporatist prohibitionists drug worriers. Not pussies bashing stoners on 4/20, shame shame shame!

Dutch Christian Democratic Government to Review Marijuana Laws, Moves to Ban Grow Shops

Dutch Conservatives Crack Down on Coffee Shops

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Santa Cruz 420 Lowest LEO Priority Initiative Jun 24, 2006

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maybe not comfortable for trolls!


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DdC brother, you sound like a very angry man. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He sounds like a raving nutcasre to me. Shocked Rolling Eyes Laughing

O.K. I think we've all seen and heard enough of this foolishness. This thread has run its purpose.

I'm locking it now before D blames us for the Krakatoa eruption and Nero's fiddle playing.
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